{"id":7893,"date":"2016-05-01T18:00:51","date_gmt":"2016-05-01T15:00:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kadrandergi.com.tr\/?p=7893"},"modified":"2016-05-01T18:00:51","modified_gmt":"2016-05-01T15:00:51","slug":"dr-mehmet-refii-kileci-roportaji","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.kadrandergi.com.tr\/?p=7893","title":{"rendered":"Dr. Mehmet Refii Kileci R\u00f6portaj\u0131"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>-Merhaba\u00a0\u00f6ncelikle Kadran okurlar\u0131na kendinizden bahsedebilir misiniz?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Bendeniz Mehmet Refii Kileci. 1962 \u0130stanbul, Fatih do\u011fumluyum. 1980\u2019e kadar \u0130stanbul Fatih\u2019te bulundum ve ilk e\u011fitimimi<br \/>\nFatih \u0130mam Hatip Lisesi\u2019nde yapt\u0131m\u00a0ilkokuldan sonra ve bu arada da k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck ya\u015flarda \u0130slam Sanatlar\u0131yla tan\u0131\u015fma f\u0131rsat\u0131m oldu. Fatih\u2019teki k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck \u00e7ocukluk ya\u015flar\u0131ndayken Fatih Camii\u2019nde de\u011fi\u015fik hocaefendilerden eski us\u00fcl \u0130slami Bilimler dersi okudum Arap\u00e7a vs. Tefsir, Hadis gibi. 1980\u2019de \u0130mam Hatip\u2019ten mezun olunca \u00fcniversite okumak i\u00e7in Medine\u2019ye gittim. 1985\u2019 e kadar Medine \u0130slam \u00dcniversite\u2019sinde okudum oray\u0131 bitirdim. Daha sonra d\u00f6n\u00fcp \u0130stanbul\u2019da Marmara \u0130lahiyat Fak\u00fcltesi\u2019nde Tefsir ve Kur\u2019an Bilimleri dal\u0131nda master ve doktora yapt\u0131m. K\u0131saca hayat\u0131m \u00f6zet olarak bu.<\/p>\n<p><strong>-Hat ve Ebru sanat\u0131na ba\u015flaman\u0131za ne sebep oldu, nelerden etkilendiniz? Bu me\u015fakkatli sanatlar\u0131\u00a0herkes yapabilir mi?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u0130slam Sanatlar\u0131na olan ilgim \u00e7ok k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck ya\u015flarda ba\u015flad\u0131. \u00d6zellikle Hat ve Ebru sanat\u0131na olan ilgim dedemin ve babam\u0131n te\u015fvikiyle oldu. Fatih\u2019te eski tarihi bir evde oturuyorduk. Dedem alim bir insan idi. Tabi evimizde bir k\u0131s\u0131m el yaz\u0131s\u0131, levhalar, tablolar vard\u0131. Tabi k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck ya\u015fta Kur\u2019an okumay\u0131 \u00f6\u011frendim. Ondan sonra yaz\u0131ya olan ilgim alakam artt\u0131. \u00c7evremizde baz\u0131 hattatlar vard\u0131 eski Osmanl\u0131\u2019dan kalan. Hat ve Ebru tabi bunlar birbirini tamamlayan sanatlar. Ve orada ona da bir ilgim ba\u015flad\u0131. Ve b\u00f6ylece k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck ya\u015fta Hat ve Ebru sanat\u0131na yelken a\u00e7t\u0131k. Bu sanatlar tabi klasik sanatlar, belli bir sab\u0131r ve e\u011fitim istiyor, uzun s\u00fcreli \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmak istiyor. Tabi Hat sanat\u0131 Ebru\u2019ya g\u00f6re daha zor. Ebru \u00e7ok zor bir sanat de\u011fil ama sab\u0131r gerektiriyor. Mutlaka bir e\u011fitim gerektiriyor. \u00d6zellikle hocalardan e\u011fitim almak gerekiyor. Sab\u0131r art\u0131 \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma art\u0131 kabiliyet, bunlar olursa iyi bir sanat\u00e7\u0131 olunur ama herkes Ebru yapabilir, iyi veya k\u00f6t\u00fc. Biliyorsunuz ki sanatlarda seviye fark\u0131 var yani herkes ayn\u0131 seviyeye ula\u015fam\u0131yor mesela bug\u00fcn resim yapan insanlar var ama d\u00fcnyaca me\u015fhur ressamlar var. \u00c7ok zirveye \u00e7\u0131kan insanlar oldu\u011fu gibi daha a\u015fa\u011f\u0131da kalan ressamlar da var. Sanatta da, ilimde de s\u0131n\u0131r yok. Kabiliyetler farkl\u0131 farkl\u0131 oldu\u011fu i\u00e7in herkesin durumu farkl\u0131 olabiliyor ama Ebru di\u011fer Hat ve resim sanatlar\u0131 kadar zor de\u011fil o a\u00e7\u0131dan herkes yapabilir, ba\u015far\u0131l\u0131 olabilir yeter ki \u00e7al\u0131\u015fs\u0131n, gayret etsin.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0-Ebru ve hat sanat\u0131n\u0131n hayat\u0131n\u0131zdaki yeri nedir? Ve bu sanatlar\u0131 meslek olarak s\u00fcrd\u00fcrmeyi tercih etmenizdeki ama\u00e7 nedir?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Tabi zor bir soru bu. \u015eu a\u00e7\u0131dan zor, bu sanatlar tamamen, eski tabirle k\u00fclliyen o sanata y\u00f6nelmenizi istiyor yani birbirini istemiyor. Hat sanat\u0131 \u201cTamamen benle me\u015fgul ol.\u201d diyor. Ebru hakeza. Biraz ayn\u0131 zamanda tabi ilimle de me\u015fgul olmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yoruz. Tefsir bran\u015f\u0131nda \u00fcniversitede ders veriyorum.\u00a0 \u0130lim art\u0131 sanat. Tabi sanat i\u015fte Hat, Ebru<br \/>\nbunlar\u0131n her biri m\u00fcstakil sanatlar. \u00dc\u00e7\u00fcn\u00fc bir arada g\u00f6t\u00fcrmek hakk\u0131n\u0131 vermek ger\u00e7ekten \u00e7ok zor. Benim zaten bu konuda bir iddiam yok yani elimden geldi\u011fi kadar bu sanatla insanlara hizmet etmeye, sanat\u0131m\u0131za hizmet etmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yorum. Bildiklerimi aktarmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yorum.\u00a0 \u00dc\u00e7\u00fcn\u00fc birden g\u00f6t\u00fcrmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yoruz ama ger\u00e7ekten zor. Mesela sadece Hatt\u0131n kendi i\u00e7indeki bir t\u00fcr\u00fc olan S\u00fcl\u00fch Nesih bile kendiyle me\u015fgul olman\u0131z\u0131 istiyor devaml\u0131. Ne kadar \u00e7ok t\u00fcrle me\u015fgul olursan\u0131z o kadar \u00e7ok ilerliyorsunuz. Kald\u0131 ki b\u00fct\u00fcn Hat\u2019la ayn\u0131 zamanda Ebruyla me\u015fgul olmak, ilimle me\u015fgul olmak bunlar birbirini \u00e7ekemeyen, birbirini istemeyen \u015feyler. Tabi bu konuda zorlan\u0131yorum ama gayemiz insanlara ve Hakk\u2019a ve bu sanata hizmet etmek olunca bir iddiam\u0131z da yok. Elimizden geldi\u011fi kadar gayret ediyoruz ama zorland\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131 da ifade etmeliyim.<\/p>\n<p>Ve hayat\u0131mdaki yerine gelince, \u00fcniversitenin d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda burada (Rotterdam\u2019da), 2008 de kurdu\u011fumuz Rumi Sanat Enstit\u00fcs\u00fc ile\u00a0bu<br \/>\nsanatlar\u0131n e\u011fitimini veriyoruz. Kurslar yap\u0131yoruz, dersler veriyoruz, e\u011fitim veriyoruz. Gerek Hollanda i\u00e7inde, gerekse Hollanda d\u0131\u015f\u0131ndan \u00f6\u011frenciler geliyor. Biz bazen yurtd\u0131\u015f\u0131na derslere, g\u00f6sterilere, workshopa veya sergilere gidiyoruz. Mesela \u00f6n\u00fcm\u00fczdeki hafta L\u00fcnen\u2019de bir sergimiz olacak.<\/p>\n<p>Tabi hayat\u0131mda ciddi bir yer te\u015fkil ediyor, vaktimin \u00e7o\u011funu al\u0131yor bu sanatlar, \u00f6zellikle e\u011fitimi. Ama bunu severek yap\u0131yoruz, bir hizmet olarak yap\u0131yoruz, ve bununla insanlara ula\u015f\u0131yoruz, g\u00fczel k\u00f6pr\u00fcler, dostluklar olu\u015fuyor insanlar aras\u0131nda. Gerek bizim insan\u0131m\u0131z aras\u0131nda, gerek di\u011fer Avrupal\u0131lara, di\u011fer \u0131rklara , dinlere, k\u00fclt\u00fcrlere mensup insanlarla arada g\u00fczel dostluklar, karde\u015flikler olu\u015fuyor. Muhabbet, sevgi olu\u015fuyor. Bu da bizim ho\u015fumuza gidiyor.\u00a0 D\u00fcnyan\u0131n bu bar\u0131\u015fa, bu sevgiye, bu dostlu\u011fa ihtiyac\u0131 var. Kan, irin kokan d\u00fcnyadan, kavgadan g\u00fcr\u00fclt\u00fcden art\u0131k b\u0131kt\u0131k. Bar\u0131\u015f\u0131, dostlu\u011fu, g\u00fczelli\u011fi, ortak noktada bulu\u015fmay\u0131 ar\u0131yoruz. Sanat burada ciddi bir ara\u00e7 olarak kullan\u0131labiliyor.<br \/>\nBenim bu sanatlar\u0131 yapmamdaki gayem, bundan para kazanmak de\u011fil. Ama profesyonel olarak bu i\u015fi yap\u0131nca mutlaka para kazan\u0131yorsunuz. Masraf\u0131n\u0131z var, vergiler \u00f6d\u00fcyorsunuz, kurumunuzun giderleri var. Ama bizim i\u00e7in para hedef ve gaye de\u011fil, bir ara\u00e7. Parayla ayakta durmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yoruz, helalinden kazanarak. Bir taraftan da as\u0131l gayemiz sanat\u0131n yay\u0131lmas\u0131, ve bu i\u015fi profesyonelce, en g\u00fczel \u015fekilde yapmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmak.<\/p>\n<p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-8615 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/kadrandergi.com.tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/mehmet2-300x165.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"589\" height=\"324\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>-Bildi\u011fimiz kadar\u0131yla asr\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n\u00a0\u00f6nemli hattatlar\u0131ndan ders ald\u0131n\u0131z. Bize biraz hocalar\u0131n\u0131zdan ve bu e\u011fitim s\u00fcrecinizden bahsedebilir misiniz?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Asr\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n en \u00f6nemli hattat\u0131, Hattat Ahmet Ayta\u00e7\u2019tan 6 y\u0131l e\u011fitim ald\u0131m, onun en k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck \u00f6\u011frencisiydim. Hocan\u0131n son d\u00f6nemine yeti\u015ftim. Hocam\u0131z uzun s\u00fcreli bir hayat ya\u015fad\u0131. Benim i\u00e7in tabi ki Allah\u2019\u0131n b\u00fcy\u00fck bir ikram\u0131 ve ihsan\u0131 idi Ahmet Ayta\u00e7la yeti\u015fmek. Hamdolsun, onunla yeti\u015ftik, ondan istifade ettik. Son halka olan hocadan. Yine son halkalardan olan Mustafa Duzgunmanla yeti\u015ftik, Ebru sanat\u0131nda. Yine \u00f6nemli bir insan, sanat\u00e7\u0131, neyzen, Ebrucu Niyazi Hocadan istifade ettik. Ayn\u0131 zamanda o d\u00f6nemde yine \u0130stanbul\u2019da ya\u015fayan son d\u00f6nem hattatlar\u0131ndan Hattat Haf\u0131z, bestek\u00e2r, tanburi Kemal Batanay Hocadan istifade ettim. Osmanl\u0131dan kalan son hattatlar, Hattat Recep Berk ve Nureddin El\u00e7io\u011flu\u2019nda yeti\u015ftim. Medine d\u00f6neminde, halen hayatta olan bir hattat\u0131m\u0131z, T\u00fcrk as\u0131ll\u0131, d\u00fcnya \u00e7ap\u0131nda hattat Ahmet Ziya Kurucu Beyden istifade etmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. Onlardan ald\u0131klar\u0131m\u0131, bildiklerimi \u015fimdi buradaki karde\u015flerime aktarmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yorum .<br \/>\nTabi Hat e\u011fitimi s\u00fcre olarak, uzun s\u00fcreli bir maraton. Be\u015fikten mezara kadar olmas\u0131 gereken bir sanat. Sonu yok bunun. E\u011fitimini genelde 3, 5 y\u0131l almak laz\u0131m, ama ondan sonra devaml\u0131 \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmak laz\u0131m. Bizim burada haftan\u0131n belirli g\u00fcnleri kurslar\u0131m\u0131z, derslerimiz var. 35 kay\u0131tl\u0131 \u00f6\u011frencimiz var \u015fuan. Muhtelif, farkl\u0131 milletlerden \u00f6\u011frenciler var. Bu e\u011fitim s\u00fcrecinde mutlaka hoca talebe ili\u015fkisi laz\u0131m. Hocan\u0131n kriti\u011fi, el hareketleri \u00e7ok \u00f6nemli bu sanatta. Bunlar\u0131 g\u00f6rmek gerekiyor. Hat uzun bir s\u00fcre\u00e7, ama Ebru oyle de\u011fil. Daha k\u0131sa surede Ebru \u00f6\u011frenip kendi kendinize de geli\u015ftirme imkan\u0131n\u0131 bulabilirsiniz. Ebru Hatta g\u00f6re daha kolay diyebilirim.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u2013\u015eu anda Hollanda da sanat merkezinizde Ebru ve Hat dersleri vermeye devam ediyorsunuz. Yurtd\u0131\u015f\u0131nda bu g\u00fczel sanatlara ilgi ne derecede? Ve bu sanatlar\u0131n manevi y\u00f6n\u00fcnden etkilenenler oluyor mu?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yurtd\u0131\u015f\u0131nda da b\u00fcy\u00fck ilgi var. \u00d6zellikle d\u00fcnya bir elektronik k\u00f6y olunca, ileti\u015fim kolayla\u015ft\u0131, insanlar bizi internetten, \u00e7e\u015fitli\u00a0sosyal\u00a0medya ara\u00e7lar\u0131ndan rahatl\u0131kla bulabiliyorlar. Teklif getiriyorlar, kurs istiyorlar, ders, workshop, sergi istiyorlar. Mesela \u00f6n\u00fcm\u00fczdeki hafta L\u00fcnen deki sergimiz i\u00e7in onlar bizi buldular. Farkl\u0131 yerlerden bulup davet ediyorlar. Afrika\u2019dan Amerika\u2019ya, G\u00fcney Amerika\u2019dan Uzakdo\u011fu\u2019ya kadar bir\u00e7ok \u00fclkeye bu sanatlarla alakal\u0131 muhtelif faaliyetler i\u00e7in gidiyoruz.<br \/>\nMesela, Amerika\u2019da, G\u00fcney Amerika\u2019da, Kolombiya\u2019da, Arjantin\u2019de, \u015eili\u2019de bir donem kurslar verdim. Orada Ebruyu \u00f6\u011frenenler \u015fuan kurs veriyorlar. Bir \u00f6\u011frencim \u015fuanda Hong-Kong\u2019da ders veriyor. D\u00fcnyan\u0131n de\u011fi\u015fik yerlerinde, bu tohum oralara kadar s\u0131\u00e7rad\u0131 ve devam ediyor.<br \/>\nTabi bunlar manev\u00ee sanatlar, \u0130slamin ve Kuran\u0131n maneviyat\u0131 bu sanatlara aksediyor. \u00d6zellikle Hatta. Bundan dolay\u0131 mek\u00e2na gelenler de dinginlik, rahatl\u0131k bulduklar\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorlar gayrim\u00fcslim de olsalar. Seviyorlar. S\u0131cak havay\u0131 hissediyorlar, g\u00fczel dostluklar olu\u015fuyor. \u00d6n yarg\u0131lar y\u0131k\u0131l\u0131yor, \u0130slama ve M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlara bak\u0131\u015flar\u0131 de\u011fi\u015fiyor . Gelen yabanc\u0131 arkada\u015flara Tefsir dersi verdi\u011fimi de s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorum . Ama ayn\u0131 zamanda sanat\u00e7\u0131y\u0131m. Bu bile \u0130slam\u0131n ger\u00e7ek y\u00fcz\u00fcn\u00fc g\u00f6steriyor. \u0130slam demek, ter\u00f6r de\u011fil. \u0130slam, \u2018silim\u2019 ve \u2018selam\u2019 k\u00f6k\u00fcnden geliyor, yani bar\u0131\u015f. \u0130slamiyet evrensel bar\u0131\u015f\u0131 arzu eden bir din. Ve bu sanatta da zaten o \u00f6n yarg\u0131lar\u0131 y\u0131kmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yoruz, bar\u0131\u015f, dostluk k\u00f6pr\u00fcleri kurmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yoruz. \u00c2cizane Rotterdam\u2019a, Avrupa\u2019n\u0131n bar\u0131\u015f\u0131na katk\u0131da bulunmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yoruz diyebilirim.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-8616 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/kadrandergi.com.tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/mehmet3-300x165.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"564\" height=\"310\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>-Hat ve Ebru Sanat\u0131 d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda ne gibi\u00a0\u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131z var? Ve ileri ki y\u0131llarda ne t\u00fcr\u00a0\u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar yapmay\u0131 planl\u0131yorsunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Mesle\u011fim \u0130lahiyat\u00e7\u0131l\u0131k olunca, bran\u015f\u0131mda \u00fcniversitede dersler veriyorum. Bazen Avrupa\u2019daki \u00e7e\u015fitli kurumlardan bizleri konferansa, seminere \u00e7a\u011f\u0131r\u0131yorlar. Gerek \u0130lahiyatla alakal\u0131, gerekse k\u00fclt\u00fcr sanat konular\u0131nda \u00e7e\u015fitli etkinliklere kat\u0131l\u0131yoruz elimizden geldi\u011fi kadar. Kendi mek\u00e2n\u0131m\u0131zda bazen topluma a\u00e7\u0131k din\u00ee ve k\u00fclt\u00fcr sanat sohbetleri yap\u0131yoruz. \u0130nsanlar\u0131n dertleriyle ilgilenmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yoruz elimizden geldi\u011fi kadar. Haftan\u0131n yedi g\u00fcn\u00fc \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yoruz desem m\u00fcbala\u011fa etmi\u015f olmam.<br \/>\n\u0130leriye y\u00f6n\u00fck planlarda, bu sanatla, k\u00fclt\u00fcrle ilimle, Avrupa toplumuna m\u00fctevazi bir \u015fekilde katk\u0131da bulunmak. Kar\u0131nca karar\u0131nca der eskiler. Bir iddiam\u0131z olmadan, elimizden geldi\u011fi kadar bu toplumun bar\u0131\u015f\u0131na huzuruna, mozai\u011fine katk\u0131da bulunmak. Bir bar\u0131\u015f k\u00f6pr\u00fcs\u00fc olu\u015fturmak, \u00f6n yarg\u0131lar\u0131 y\u0131kmak. Sanatla alakal\u0131 yine muhtelif, daha geni\u015f faaliyetler d\u00fczenlemeyi d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyoruz. Hedefimiz topluma hizmet etmek. Herhangi bir siyasi d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncemiz yok bu manada. \u0130stiyoruz ki, Avrupa da, d\u00fcnya da, bir k\u00f6y, ada olan d\u00fcnya, bir bar\u0131\u015f adas\u0131 olsun, huzur d\u00fcnyas\u0131 olsun. Burada da ilimle, k\u00fclt\u00fcrle, sanatla, medeniyetle insanlara verece\u011fimiz \u00e7ok \u015fey var. Buraya bir\u00e7ok Hollandal\u0131 geliyor, gelirken farkl\u0131 \u00e7\u0131karken \u00e7ok farkl\u0131 oluyorlar. Bizim onlara olan alakam\u0131z\u0131, s\u0131cakl\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z\u0131, dostlu\u011fumuzu g\u00f6r\u00fcnce kafas\u0131ndaki imajlar y\u0131k\u0131larak \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yor. Ciddi bir dostluk olu\u015fuyor , ve bu dostluk da devam ediyor.<br \/>\n\u00d6zellikle \u015funu vurgulamak isterim; topluma ula\u015fmada sosyal medya g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc bir ara\u00e7. Sosyal medya olmasa ger\u00e7ekten zorlanaca\u011f\u0131m\u0131z kanaatindeyim. Sanatla ayakta kalmak, resm\u00ee olarak ayakta kalmak \u00e7ok zor. Herhangi bir yerden destek alm\u0131yoruz, kendi yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z sanat faaliyetiyle ayakta durmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yoruz. Hem devlete vergi \u00f6d\u00fcyoruz , hem toplumumuza faydal\u0131 oluyoruz. \u0130nsanlara ula\u015fmada s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131 \u00e7ekiyorduk, art\u0131k eskisi gibi gazete okunmuyor. Reklam y\u00f6n\u00fcnden problemimiz vard\u0131, onu biraz sosyal medyayla a\u015fmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yoruz. Ama toplumumuz maalesef sanata biraz daha duyarl\u0131 olmas\u0131 laz\u0131m. Sanata sanat\u00e7\u0131ya de\u011fer vermesi laz\u0131m. 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